He tells me he wants to start a museum where people can get to learn more about them, the work done to eradicate them, and for scientific research.
"The museum will have live jiggers," he says. We are in his office at his organisation, Ahadi Kenya Trust where he tells me his story.
"Live?" I ask, trying to picture it.
"Yeah! They are here!" he says, standing up from behind his desk to retrieve a jar of jiggers...